Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapman Waste Disposal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Jeff Chapman (Georgia politician). Cirt (talk) 20:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Chapman Waste Disposal

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A waste disposal company. Having a notable founder does not make a company notable. The only external links were spam for the founder, not the company. Sgroupace (talk) 18:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

• Keep. An earlier version had references but was deleted as an expired prod. Could someone please restore the history so that those references could be evaluated? - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:21, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 11:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
• Delete - I've restored the revisions that were deleted previously through proposed deletion per Eastmain's request. There were never any references in the article, the only difference between the article now and when it was deleted was a corporation stub template. I did a search for references before deleting it when it was proposed for deletion and found nothing significant to suggest that it met our notability requirements, so I still endorse its deletion. -- Atama頭 17:59, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
• Redirect to Jeff Chapman (Georgia politician). As company itself does not seem notable, better off as a subsection of the founder's article. Turgan ^Talk 13:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:58, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

• Delete I don't even think the founder, Jeff Chapman qualifies as notable, nor do most of the persons for whom articles have been created as part of someone's project in Georgia gubernatorial election, 2010 to write a separate page for every person who has declared an interest in that office. Now that's something in need of waste disposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandsford (talk • contribs) 01:07, 31 January 2010
  • Comment. Jeff Chapman (Georgia politician) is clearly notable as a member of the Georgia Senate. I expected to find more coverage of this company, especially since waste disposal companies sometimes get into conflicts with government environmental agencies, or are mentioned in controversies relating to government contracting practices. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Eastmain is correct, per WP:POLITICIAN, on Mr. Chapman. I tend to agree that most waste disposal companies are not notable in an of themselves (can anyone here recall the name written on the side of the truck that hauls away their garbage each week?) and that the inherent notability of an owner doesn't get passed on to in King Midas fashion to everything the owner touches. Mandsford (talk) 15:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

• Merge to the guy that started the company. If someone decides to expand it there it can always be broken back out. But there's not much there really except that it was a company, it was started by him, and acquired. I think that can be includedin his article. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
• Delete. 50 Google hits. Zero News, Books or Scholar hits. Also, there is nothing whatsoever encyclopedic to say about this business. Abductive (reasoning) 09:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete in accordance with WP:CSD#A7. There are notable waste companies, but they are the subject of significant coverage in accordance with WP:GNG. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 18:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
• Redirect to Jeff Chapman (Georgia politician). It's a plausible search term, however we already discuss the company in his bio article so there's really nothing to merge. I can't imagine those arguing in favor of deletion would have a problem with leaving this as a redirect, so I think that's the best option for the closing admin. If there has been a problem with this article being recreated in the past we could salt the redirect—the company was bought out in 1995 so there's really no way we're ever going to have an article about it. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 00:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

• I disagree. This is a very unlikely search term, since the total absense of Google News/Books/Scholar hits, and that Mr Chapman's article itself had less than 100 page views back in Dec. Nearly all politicians have either been businesspeople or attorneys or both prior to running for office, and ownership of a company so minor that it doesn't even get mentioned in local papers should not be given even a redirect. Abductive (reasoning) 01:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

• Unlikely yes, of course, but "plausible" is quite a different matter. Redirects are cheap, as they say, and we generally retain them if there's a possibility it could be useful. There are any number of reasons someone might type "Chapman Waste Disposal" into the search box, even if it only happens once in a blue moon (since Chapman is apparently running for Governor there might be more interest in him and his history). A redirect does no harm, and I suppose there's a chance we could stick some small tidbit from the article and merge it into Chapman's bio. WP:R#KEEP suggests maintaining a redirect is worthwhile while WP:R#DELETE doesn't have a reason for deletion that would apply here. It's pretty trivial whether we delete or turn this into a redirect, but I think the latter makes more sense. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 02:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

• Redirect to Jeff Chapman (Georgia politician) per Bigtimepeace (talk · contribs)'s arguments that this is a plausible redirect that could aid a reader in receiving information about the waste disposal company. Cunard (talk) 06:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.